tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-854676056157946675.post4360229517692671111..comments2023-09-21T03:51:33.508-04:00Comments on Joshua Judges Ruth: Jesus: The True IsraelDave Sarafoleanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16722550481632741589noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-854676056157946675.post-3935421617899786922010-12-29T09:34:51.605-05:002010-12-29T09:34:51.605-05:00Wes,
Good question. Let me take a stab at it.
...Wes,<br /><br />Good question. Let me take a stab at it. <br /><br />Jesus is the true Israel by virtue of his completing the covenant God made with Israel at Mount Sinai. That was a conditional covenant just like the covenant made with Adam in the Garden of Eden. So, Christ kept both of these conditional covenants on behalf of those who have broken them. <br /><br />The church is Israel Dave Sarafoleanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16722550481632741589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-854676056157946675.post-70790992126052581512010-12-22T16:19:38.647-05:002010-12-22T16:19:38.647-05:00Hey you guys,
Great discussion. I have a questio...Hey you guys,<br /><br />Great discussion. I have a question, Dave: What about verses like Jer. 31:33 and Gal 6:16 (etc.), which clearly refer to the Church as the true Israel? How do you delineate between Christ as the true Israel, and the Church as the true Israel?<br /><br />Thanks!<br /><br />WesWeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04743568814221149788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-854676056157946675.post-64589078634447426572010-12-22T13:05:04.380-05:002010-12-22T13:05:04.380-05:00Alright, thanks.Alright, thanks.E. Wesley Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16915790745645731658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-854676056157946675.post-38479667975988103052010-12-22T12:58:59.887-05:002010-12-22T12:58:59.887-05:00Wesley,
Well, Israel forgot that they couldn'...Wesley,<br /><br />Well, Israel forgot that they couldn't keep the covenant of works. When God renewed the covenant with Israel (Deut. 27-30)<br />he spoke of covenant blessings and covenant curses. Furthermore, though the people agreed to live under these conditions God plainly told that they would fail to keep the covenant (see Deut. 30:18ff). They willingly entered into this covenant Dave Sarafoleanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16722550481632741589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-854676056157946675.post-40496409396604462712010-12-22T11:53:16.981-05:002010-12-22T11:53:16.981-05:00Yeah, Israel seemed to be in a very interesting po...Yeah, Israel seemed to be in a very interesting position in Redemptive history. Certainly, Israel wasn’t in the covenant of works like Adam because they couldn’t keep the law perfectly and Hebrews mentions Abraham being saved by grace. Yet like you said, there seemed to be an allusion to what you called “conditional covenant” concerning Israel’s inheriting of the Promised Land. Any thoughts?E. Wesley Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16915790745645731658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-854676056157946675.post-4523203330788878862010-12-22T10:17:16.651-05:002010-12-22T10:17:16.651-05:00Wesley,
Good points. I was unaware of Milton'...Wesley,<br /><br />Good points. I was unaware of Milton's work in this area. I will check out your blog. <br /><br />When we see that Christ was the <br />2nd Adam AND Israel recapituled, the OT comes clearly into focus. Just as Adam was under a conditional covenant (do this or die) so was Israel at Sinai (do this or I will kick you out of the land). This understanding clears up a lot of Dave Sarafoleanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16722550481632741589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-854676056157946675.post-54268597763866229402010-12-21T12:58:10.590-05:002010-12-21T12:58:10.590-05:00Hello Rev. Sarafolean,
The parallels between Chri...Hello Rev. Sarafolean,<br /><br />The parallels between Christ and Israel are indisputable. What strikes me more is the fact that not only did Christ “recapitulate” Israel, but was living out the law in her stead as He was doing it. John Milton in his Paradise Regained poetically reminds his readers that in the temptation of Christ, Christ was keeping the law as Adam should have kept it (of E. Wesley Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16915790745645731658noreply@blogger.com