Tuesday, November 10, 2009

Dirty Laundry, II

Stunning and Brazen.

Here's the play by play...

(0:03) Male and female deacons installed together
(0:13) Deb, elected a female deacon, is used to represent further deacons being installed later that morning. Pastor states: "Deb is assuming the Diaconal Role this morning."
(0:20) Nominated by members of Redeemer just as other elders and deacons
(0:28) Extensive Training Process
(0:35) Interviewed by other officers of the Church
(0:41) Elected by vote of congregation
(1:17) Deaconess for Deb is an extraordinary calling
(1:34) She is charged
(4:26) Six Ordination Questions are asked to the woman
(5:09) The Pastor clearly uses the word 'ordination' in regard to what is going on
(6:02) The members of Redeemer promise and covenant to yield obedience to her.

Comments and thoughts?


Wes White said...

That is stunning and brazen.

Rev. Brian Carpenter said...

And unconstitutional. But apparently if you think you're a PCA superstar, then it's fine.

Dave Sarafolean said...

Brazen is the word, especially given GA's admonitions (via Review of Presbytery Records) in 2007 and 2008. Last summer the matter was referred either to SJC or to the Committee on Constitutional Business. We'll see what happens.

Sacha said...

The sad part is, it doesn't surprise me. It is the sneakiness of this movement in our denomination that bothers me most.

Dave Sarafolean said...


Well-put. That this happened less than a month before last year's GA is all the more troubling. Those who attended the Ligon Duncan - Tim Keller forum on deaconesses talked in glowing terms about how close they were in their views. It would've been nice had Rev. Keller explained this practice during that event.